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PostSubject: Shorty Headers    Shorty Headers  I_icon_minitimeMarch 15th 2011, 5:08 pm

I have been looking at some Shorty Headers JBA-1964S-1JT

My question : Is it worth the extra money to get the coated headers ? will the heat off the un-coated headers be that much more ?

does it matter either way


Thanks for you input

Paul
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PostSubject: Re: Shorty Headers    Shorty Headers  I_icon_minitimeMarch 15th 2011, 6:16 pm

Hurst Pak wrote:
I have been looking at some Shorty Headers JBA-1964S-1JT

My question : Is it worth the extra money to get the coated headers ? will the heat off the un-coated headers be that much more ?

does it matter either way


Thanks for you input

Paul
From what I gathered before I bought my headers, you want them coated. I cant remember the exact reasons why, it was 2yrs ago. I would spend the extra for the coating, I think mine are ceramic coated.
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PostSubject: Re: Shorty Headers    Shorty Headers  I_icon_minitimeMarch 15th 2011, 6:29 pm

Coating prolongs the life of the header and keeps engine bay temps down.
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PostSubject: Re: Shorty Headers    Shorty Headers  I_icon_minitimeMarch 15th 2011, 6:35 pm

yes you want them coated.... you would be amazed at how hot the underhood temps get when there not coated.... and like okie stated it prolongs the life of the header as well...
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PostSubject: Re: Shorty Headers    Shorty Headers  I_icon_minitimeMarch 15th 2011, 7:05 pm

Yes coating helps more than you can think of...plus the look nicer in the engine bay
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PostSubject: Re: Shorty Headers    Shorty Headers  I_icon_minitimeMarch 15th 2011, 7:09 pm

wish i would have coated the jba shortys i have on my truck if that tells you anything... rust color headers kinda suck.
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PostSubject: Re: Shorty Headers    Shorty Headers  I_icon_minitimeMarch 15th 2011, 7:38 pm

jontoad wrote:
wish i would have coated the jba shortys i have on my truck if that tells you anything... rust color headers kinda suck.

You still can,check out Hardaway Customs(however u spell it lol) they offer jet coating that's even better than any company out there
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PostSubject: Re: Shorty Headers    Shorty Headers  I_icon_minitimeMarch 15th 2011, 7:41 pm

HemiMag wrote:
jontoad wrote:
wish i would have coated the jba shortys i have on my truck if that tells you anything... rust color headers kinda suck.

You still can,check out Hardaway Customs(however u spell it lol) they offer jet coating that's even better than any company out there

not gonna spend money on that now. I'll get long tube headers when i build a motor for that truck someday anyways.
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PostSubject: Re: Shorty Headers    Shorty Headers  I_icon_minitimeMarch 15th 2011, 7:47 pm

O.K. then I just ordered the set
thanks for the help

I need to get into the 12 step program for Mod addiction.

Just this past two months
1- gear shift handle
2 - hood venting system
3 - Mopar hood pins
4 - sequential turn signals
5 - BT Fender mount Catch can
6 - 6 sp shift boot
7- Predator & interface
8 - Shorty headers
9 - Jet 180 stat
and if I know myself , and I do.. likely Highflow Cats & mid-pipes

oh yea . after all that a trip to see Tim for a Dyno tune


I have O.C.D. Obsessive Challenger Disorder

The 12 Steps

Step 1 - We admitted we were powerless over our Mod addiction - that our lives had become unmanageable
Step 2 - Came to believe that a Power greater than ourselves could restore us to sanity
Step 3 - Made a decision to turn our will and our lives over to the care of God as we understood God
Step 4 - Made a searching and fearless moral inventory of Mods
Step 5 - Admitted to God, to ourselves and to another human being the exact nature of our Mods
Step 6 - Were entirely ready to have God remove all these Modifications
Step 7 - Humbly asked God to remove our credit card privileges
Step 8 - Made a list of all persons we had smoked, and became willing to make amends to them all
Step 9 - Made direct amends to such people wherever possible, except if it was a Mustang or Camaro
Step 10 - Continued to take personal inventory and when we were wrong promptly admitted it, except to our spouse.
Step 11 - Sought through prayer and meditation to improve our 1/4 time , praying only for knowledge of air to fuel mixture.
Step 12 - Having had a spiritual awakening as the result of these steps, we tried to carry this message to other addicts, and to practice these principles at the track.


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PostSubject: Re: Shorty Headers    Shorty Headers  I_icon_minitimeMarch 15th 2011, 7:50 pm

Why not do the high flows and mids at the same time? Will be a hell of a lot easier
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PostSubject: Re: Shorty Headers    Shorty Headers  I_icon_minitimeMarch 15th 2011, 7:57 pm

Shawn1112 wrote:
Why not do the high flows and mids at the same time? Will be a hell of a lot easier

Ok let me get you credit card number .. LOL


Ohh ...I see your an enabler .. affraid
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PostSubject: Re: Shorty Headers    Shorty Headers  I_icon_minitimeMarch 15th 2011, 8:06 pm

I agree with Shawn you should do high flows cats and mids at the same time.
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PostSubject: Re: Shorty Headers    Shorty Headers  I_icon_minitimeMarch 15th 2011, 8:46 pm

Hurst Pak wrote:
Shawn1112 wrote:
Why not do the high flows and mids at the same time? Will be a hell of a lot easier

Ok let me get you credit card number .. LOL


Ohh ...I see your an enabler .. affraid
Whats a credit card?????
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PostSubject: Re: Shorty Headers    Shorty Headers  I_icon_minitimeMarch 18th 2011, 8:38 pm

OK so the JBA'S arrived today . I gotta say very pleased with Autopartsdealer.com was best price & were here in 2 days.

So i have completed the drivers side . real time about 3 hours. I have no lift, no power tools .All by hand ( used to that been married for 18 years LOL)

In my small garage
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Mid pipes out - High flows with Cats will be here Monday from Maryland speed.
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the rest of exhaust on floor
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Compare OEM manifold to JBA header
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Let me tell you it was hard to do on the floor but I was quoted $1200.00 from one place & $1000.00 from another

With a lift , air tools & an extra pair of hands it would be done in 3 hours VS one side.
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PostSubject: Re: Shorty Headers    Shorty Headers  I_icon_minitimeMarch 18th 2011, 8:49 pm

looking good so far... wait till you step it up to long tubes... makes shorties a walk in the park...
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PostSubject: Re: Shorty Headers    Shorty Headers  I_icon_minitimeMarch 18th 2011, 9:25 pm

Nice work there Paul. Have you made a reservation for the Hospital Clinic for Pain yet? lol.
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PostSubject: Re: Shorty Headers    Shorty Headers  I_icon_minitimeMarch 18th 2011, 9:27 pm

Im curious what the difference with the headers are compared to the stockers performance wise. Is it worth it on our cars?
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PostSubject: Re: Shorty Headers    Shorty Headers  I_icon_minitimeMarch 19th 2011, 9:22 am

Illinois Chaos wrote:
Nice work there Paul. Have you made a reservation for the Hospital Clinic for Pain yet? lol.

OMG I am sore today for sure. and one more side left

Advil please.
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PostSubject: Re: Shorty Headers    Shorty Headers  I_icon_minitimeMarch 19th 2011, 9:23 am

jesse031081 wrote:
Im curious what the difference with the headers are compared to the stockers performance wise. Is it worth it on our cars?

I am sure someone can answer that from this site . I did a google search did find some info .
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PostSubject: Re: Shorty Headers    Shorty Headers  I_icon_minitimeMarch 19th 2011, 10:16 am

def a difference in sound performance etc... same as strapping an intake on the car... in order to get more power the car needs more flow... headers alone make a difference but not a significant one... the high flow cats and cat back really complete the package to get the air out...
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PostSubject: Re: Shorty Headers    Shorty Headers  I_icon_minitimeMarch 19th 2011, 10:43 am

I would think the right (passenger) side would be easier seeing you don't have to deal with the steering column. Props for doing it yourself. I would also like to know real time performance numbers.
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PostSubject: Re: Shorty Headers    Shorty Headers  I_icon_minitimeMarch 19th 2011, 10:59 am

Performance wise, those headers will help the air flow out because of the way the they are made and how they allow the exhaust to exit the car. Here is a video from Two Guys Garage, he starts explaining how the set up works around the 5 min mark. But either way, this is a great video for explaining how the headers actually make a difference from stock. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n8VlynaUVO8
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PostSubject: Re: Shorty Headers    Shorty Headers  I_icon_minitimeMarch 19th 2011, 12:34 pm

Shorty headers peak in torque in the first 1/8th mile at WOT. Long tubes give you more power towards the big end.
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PostSubject: Re: Shorty Headers    Shorty Headers  I_icon_minitimeMarch 19th 2011, 3:52 pm

For street use, short headers are the way to go. More power, and easier to install. Those of us that have swapped a starter with long tube headers will agree.
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PostSubject: Re: Shorty Headers    Shorty Headers  I_icon_minitimeMarch 19th 2011, 4:34 pm

Wow that's crazy,props to you for getting it started !!!
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