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+7jontoad liljoejoe54 Shawn1112 xegitalian19xx ChiTownHemi Illinois Chaos DamnSTR8 11 posters |
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DamnSTR8 CAMM Pro
Location : Elk Grove Village Points : 5833 Posts : 255 Reputation : 49
| Subject: Will the stock rear hold? May 24th 2011, 3:05 pm | |
| Im verrrrry close to ordering a the super spartan max cam and i know with a tune from mr morms i can put down somewhere near 460-480 rwhp...i want to know if the stock srt rear will be ok with that for now...until i can save for the wavetrac.....and chally axles... | |
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Illinois Chaos CAMM All-Star
Location : in the other lane Points : 13968 Posts : 5492 Reputation : 1198
| Subject: Re: Will the stock rear hold? May 24th 2011, 3:23 pm | |
| It will if you don't run dr's and hook it. The 215 mm half shafts will snap the very first time you hook up. | |
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ChiTownHemi CAMM All-Star
Location : Chicagoland Area Points : 8222 Posts : 1113 Reputation : 497
| Subject: Re: Will the stock rear hold? May 24th 2011, 3:45 pm | |
| Keep us posted on this. I'll be doing something similar about this time next year and am very interested to see what you get with this cam. Have you talked it over yet with Tim? | |
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DamnSTR8 CAMM Pro
Location : Elk Grove Village Points : 5833 Posts : 255 Reputation : 49
| Subject: Re: Will the stock rear hold? May 24th 2011, 4:20 pm | |
| no im just on nitto invos at the moment...and if i did race i wouldnt stall....i just want to get some good horsepower for the summer and enjoy it and then in the fall or next spring upgrade the rear.... | |
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xegitalian19xx Founding Member
Location : Chicago Points : 17937 Posts : 1475 Reputation : 294
| Subject: Re: Will the stock rear hold? May 24th 2011, 4:30 pm | |
| You should be fine broseph...like tom said, just don't hook with DR's and you'll be fine | |
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Shawn1112 Founding Member
Location : Hater Proof Points : 34089 Posts : 12919 Reputation : 1607
| Subject: Re: Will the stock rear hold? May 24th 2011, 5:35 pm | |
| - DamnSTR8 wrote:
- Im verrrrry close to ordering a the super spartan max cam and i know with a tune from mr morms i can put down somewhere near 460-480 rwhp...i want to know if the stock srt rear will be ok with that for now...until i can save for the wavetrac.....and chally axles...
Cam only on a srt8 and your gonna get 460-480 to the wheels? Not calling you a liar, and I hope you get that much, but I doubt it. | |
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liljoejoe54 Moderator
Location : Chicago Points : 23165 Posts : 4222 Reputation : 848
| Subject: Re: Will the stock rear hold? May 24th 2011, 5:41 pm | |
| - Shawn1112 wrote:
- DamnSTR8 wrote:
- Im verrrrry close to ordering a the super spartan max cam and i know with a tune from mr morms i can put down somewhere near 460-480 rwhp...i want to know if the stock srt rear will be ok with that for now...until i can save for the wavetrac.....and chally axles...
Cam only on a srt8 and your gonna get 460-480 to the wheels? Not calling you a liar, and I hope you get that much, but I doubt it. Yeah thats probably at the crank. At the wheels stock is around the 375 mark if I remember correctly so 80-100hp on a cam/tune doesnt seem right. | |
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jontoad Founding Member
Location : Naperville, IL Points : 13092 Posts : 4914 Reputation : 1220
| Subject: Re: Will the stock rear hold? May 24th 2011, 6:10 pm | |
| JensSRT got 446hp/450tq to the rear wheels with a cam only. she used a super spartan max cam.
http://www.chicagolandareamodernmopars.com/t221-jenssrt-gets-dyno-d?highlight=jenssrt | |
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liljoejoe54 Moderator
Location : Chicago Points : 23165 Posts : 4222 Reputation : 848
| Subject: Re: Will the stock rear hold? May 24th 2011, 7:16 pm | |
| - jontoad wrote:
- JensSRT got 446hp/450tq to the rear wheels with a cam only. she used a super spartan max cam.
http://www.chicagolandareamodernmopars.com/t221-jenssrt-gets-dyno-d?highlight=jenssrt That is INSANE! | |
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DamnSTR8 CAMM Pro
Location : Elk Grove Village Points : 5833 Posts : 255 Reputation : 49
| Subject: Re: Will the stock rear hold? May 25th 2011, 8:13 am | |
| thats my point....and then add a tune you can be close to 460-475..... | |
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DamnSTR8 CAMM Pro
Location : Elk Grove Village Points : 5833 Posts : 255 Reputation : 49
| Subject: Re: Will the stock rear hold? May 25th 2011, 8:18 am | |
| - liljoejoe54 wrote:
- Shawn1112 wrote:
- DamnSTR8 wrote:
- Im verrrrry close to ordering a the super spartan max cam and i know with a tune from mr morms i can put down somewhere near 460-480 rwhp...i want to know if the stock srt rear will be ok with that for now...until i can save for the wavetrac.....and chally axles...
Cam only on a srt8 and your gonna get 460-480 to the wheels? Not calling you a liar, and I hope you get that much, but I doubt it. Yeah thats probably at the crank. At the wheels stock is around the 375 mark if I remember correctly so 80-100hp on a cam/tune doesnt seem right. stock rwhp is 360...crank is 425...with exhaust and a diablo i have 450 crank and 380rwhp now...so add those cam gains to the equation | |
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xegitalian19xx Founding Member
Location : Chicago Points : 17937 Posts : 1475 Reputation : 294
| Subject: Re: Will the stock rear hold? May 25th 2011, 8:53 am | |
| - DamnSTR8 wrote:
- thats my point....and then add a tune you can be close to 460-475.....
Nick buddy...Jens' number are with a tune bro... | |
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DamnSTR8 CAMM Pro
Location : Elk Grove Village Points : 5833 Posts : 255 Reputation : 49
| Subject: Re: Will the stock rear hold? May 25th 2011, 1:22 pm | |
| not a mr norms tune...lol | |
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xegitalian19xx Founding Member
Location : Chicago Points : 17937 Posts : 1475 Reputation : 294
| Subject: Re: Will the stock rear hold? May 25th 2011, 3:44 pm | |
| True, but still I don't think you'll net much more than that even with Tim's Tune! | |
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Illinois Chaos CAMM All-Star
Location : in the other lane Points : 13968 Posts : 5492 Reputation : 1198
| Subject: Re: Will the stock rear hold? May 25th 2011, 9:46 pm | |
| - xegitalian19xx wrote:
- True, but still I don't think you'll net much more than that even with Tim's Tune!
At least Tim can tune. That car sounded like shit. It was breaking up. Who tunes making multiple pulls w/o a cool down? How did he get those numbers with a hot hemi that was pulling timing from heat soak? | |
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cjresto CAMM Member
Location : Tinley Park Points : 5781 Posts : 174 Reputation : 51
| Subject: Re: Will the stock rear hold? May 26th 2011, 10:39 am | |
| Those #s seem very high for Just a Camed car. But than again every Dyno is different, my base line from Tim was 35hp lower than my previous Dyno, no changes to the motor just different dyno on a different day. Not sure if Tims new Dyno is as stingy as his old one but dont be surprised if you only pull down around 420-430 with just a cam. | |
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Illinois Chaos CAMM All-Star
Location : in the other lane Points : 13968 Posts : 5492 Reputation : 1198
| Subject: Re: Will the stock rear hold? May 26th 2011, 12:13 pm | |
| - cjresto wrote:
- Those #s seem very high for Just a Camed car. But than again every Dyno is different, my base line from Tim was 35hp lower than my previous Dyno, no changes to the motor just different dyno on a different day. Not sure if Tims new Dyno is as stingy as his old one but dont be surprised if you only pull down around 420-430 with just a cam.
Damn straight! HP numbers don't mean shit. Too many variables. It's the numbers in the tune put into the laptop that make the difference. That's where Tim shines and Bob Kurgan tunes the same way as Tim does. It isn't having a dyno tune that's so important as it is who is doing the tuning. Having a shop and a dyno and the CMR software doesn't make you a tuner, just as me standing in my empty garage doesn't make me a car! | |
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DamnSTR8 CAMM Pro
Location : Elk Grove Village Points : 5833 Posts : 255 Reputation : 49
| Subject: Re: Will the stock rear hold? May 26th 2011, 3:53 pm | |
| lol well i guess the only way to find out is buy it and dyno it... | |
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xegitalian19xx Founding Member
Location : Chicago Points : 17937 Posts : 1475 Reputation : 294
| Subject: Re: Will the stock rear hold? May 26th 2011, 4:21 pm | |
| yeah so quit talking and do it | |
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The Black Stig Supporting Vendor
Location : Lakemoor Points : 6142 Posts : 557 Reputation : 103
| Subject: Re: Will the stock rear hold? July 12th 2011, 1:32 pm | |
| yeah i've been seeing crazy cam only numbers. Speed inc did one in a vette + e-85 and picked up 85whp thats 465 @ the wheels!!!!! there was so much controversy they posted videos of the before and after dyno runs.
Seen a few crazy SRT's cams are imho the Real brain of any engine | |
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hawksview CAMM Member
Location : machesney park il Points : 5267 Posts : 37 Reputation : 12
| Subject: Re: Will the stock rear hold? July 14th 2011, 5:04 pm | |
| Ok so does mr norms sell the srt max cam or just install and tune for it.I would imagine the cam would have to be purchased from inertia correct? | |
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Shawn1112 Founding Member
Location : Hater Proof Points : 34089 Posts : 12919 Reputation : 1607
| Subject: Re: Will the stock rear hold? July 14th 2011, 9:40 pm | |
| Call Tim and ask him. He might be able to get you a custom cam to fit what your looking for. | |
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moros323 CAMM Pro
Location : Chitown western burbs Points : 5318 Posts : 311 Reputation : 12
| Subject: Re: Will the stock rear hold? August 21st 2011, 11:59 pm | |
| I am in the dekalb area anyone know of a good tuner is Tim in the Chicago area? | |
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Illinois Chaos CAMM All-Star
Location : in the other lane Points : 13968 Posts : 5492 Reputation : 1198
| Subject: Re: Will the stock rear hold? August 22nd 2011, 7:42 am | |
| Tim is in Rockford Mr. Norm's 601 W. Jefferson, Rockford Il 61103. | |
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Illinois Chaos CAMM All-Star
Location : in the other lane Points : 13968 Posts : 5492 Reputation : 1198
| Subject: Re: Will the stock rear hold? August 22nd 2011, 7:44 am | |
| - hawksview wrote:
- Ok so does mr norms sell the srt max cam or just install and tune for it.I would imagine the cam would have to be purchased from inertia correct?
Yes, you would have to order it. | |
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