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jesse031081 CAMM All-Star
Location : Wisconsin Points : 8862 Posts : 1932 Reputation : 525
| Subject: bypassing the resonators August 4th 2009, 7:25 pm | |
| should i have any concerns bypassing my resonators on an automatic | |
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jontoad Founding Member
Location : Naperville, IL Points : 13091 Posts : 4914 Reputation : 1220
| Subject: Re: bypassing the resonators August 4th 2009, 7:44 pm | |
| you mean taking them off? no a lot of us ditched the resonators. i have all 3inch pipe with dual magnaflow mufflers and no resonators.
but be careful with you muffler selection if you don't want drone in the car. | |
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jesse031081 CAMM All-Star
Location : Wisconsin Points : 8862 Posts : 1932 Reputation : 525
| Subject: Re: bypassing the resonators August 4th 2009, 7:51 pm | |
| just like blastin bobs is what a muffler shop is gonna do | |
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Mad Hatter CAMM Member
Location : Hazel Crest, Il Points : 7109 Posts : 897 Reputation : 184
| Subject: Re: bypassing the resonators August 5th 2009, 7:27 pm | |
| HUH? What exactly are you doing with the exhaust? | |
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jesse031081 CAMM All-Star
Location : Wisconsin Points : 8862 Posts : 1932 Reputation : 525
| Subject: Re: bypassing the resonators August 5th 2009, 8:33 pm | |
| im having a guy cut out the resonators and welding in a piece in place of them and them welding my stock tips on | |
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irishrt5.7 CAMM All-Star
Location : Ingleside Points : 21524 Posts : 3798 Reputation : 705
| Subject: Re: bypassing the resonators August 5th 2009, 8:35 pm | |
| you should be fine... will sound good... not to loud... will get a lil drone but not to bad... | |
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Mad Hatter CAMM Member
Location : Hazel Crest, Il Points : 7109 Posts : 897 Reputation : 184
| Subject: Re: bypassing the resonators August 5th 2009, 9:48 pm | |
| Ok, what about the mufflers, you keeping them or changing them out? | |
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Admin Founding Member
Location : Chicago Points : 20383 Posts : 2295 Reputation : 612
| Subject: Re: bypassing the resonators August 5th 2009, 9:50 pm | |
| Remove the suitcase muffler in the middle and add pipes there, leaving the rear resos if you don't want drone. | |
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Headtripp Founding Member
Location : McHenry Points : 19489 Posts : 2605 Reputation : 655
| Subject: Re: bypassing the resonators August 5th 2009, 10:00 pm | |
| Yeah ditch the suitcase you will drop about 50 lbs too thing is a monster | |
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plumcrazy CAMM Rookie
Location : Joliet Points : 5489 Posts : 2 Reputation : 0
| Subject: Re: bypassing the resonators October 3rd 2009, 8:27 pm | |
| I am also thinking about gettign rid of the reso and just putting some tips in place. doe anybdy know if this will create any warranty issues or what something like this will cost. i would like a full system but dont want to spend that much money right now. i just installed the kn cold air system. | |
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Admin Founding Member
Location : Chicago Points : 20383 Posts : 2295 Reputation : 612
| Subject: Re: bypassing the resonators October 3rd 2009, 8:30 pm | |
| Depends how much of an ass the dealer is. I'd still recommend replacing the suitcase muffler, not the resonators. | |
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liljoejoe54 Moderator
Location : Chicago Points : 23164 Posts : 4222 Reputation : 848
| Subject: Re: bypassing the resonators October 3rd 2009, 8:30 pm | |
| - plumcrazy wrote:
- I am also thinking about gettign rid of the reso and just putting some tips in place. doe anybdy know if this will create any warranty issues or what something like this will cost. i would like a full system but dont want to spend that much money right now. i just installed the kn cold air system.
If you modify the exhaust, the only thing the dealer can void is the warranty on the OEM exhaust. They might tell you otherwise but they are lying. They cant say changing a different muffler made your water pump go out. They have to prove your mod made a certain part break. | |
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liljoejoe54 Moderator
Location : Chicago Points : 23164 Posts : 4222 Reputation : 848
| Subject: Re: bypassing the resonators October 3rd 2009, 8:32 pm | |
| I got flowmaster delta flow 40s in place of my suitcase muffler and I got blastin bob 5db reso eliminators on the rear in place of my resonators. I only get drone when cruising at 80mph. I also disabled my MDS so that may help. If I still had MDS with my setup, i might get a little more drone. | |
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jontoad Founding Member
Location : Naperville, IL Points : 13091 Posts : 4914 Reputation : 1220
| Subject: Re: bypassing the resonators October 3rd 2009, 9:34 pm | |
| - liljoejoe54 wrote:
- plumcrazy wrote:
- I am also thinking about gettign rid of the reso and just putting some tips in place. doe anybdy know if this will create any warranty issues or what something like this will cost. i would like a full system but dont want to spend that much money right now. i just installed the kn cold air system.
If you modify the exhaust, the only thing the dealer can void is the warranty on the OEM exhaust. They might tell you otherwise but they are lying. They cant say changing a different muffler made your water pump go out. They have to prove your mod made a certain part break. Joe is right. any exhaust mods will void the emissions equipment and systems warranty only. but you should read this from another forum. have you ever heard of the Magnuson Moss warranty act? here is how it applies to you and your modded car. - Quote :
- The Magnuson-Moss Warranty Act: Protecting tweakers, tuners, and other users of aftermarket equipment.
You want to upgrade your vehicle with aftermarket equipment, but youâ€re worried about putting the vehicleâ€s warranty at risk. Itâ€s no wonder, how many times have you heard some one at a dealership say that installing aftermarket equipment automatically voids the warranty? This common misconception has been repeated often enough to be widely believed –though it is completely false.
Fact: Dealers donâ€t like warranty work, because it pays less than normal repair work. By promoting the myth that aftermarket equipment automatically voids warranties, some dealers avoid such low-paying work. Instead, they attempt to charge customers the prime service rate for work which is rightfully done under warranty.
Most vehicle owners are not aware they are protected by federal law: the Magnuson-Moss Warranty – Federal Trade Commission Improvement Act of 1975. Under the MMW Act, aftermarket equipment which improves performance does not void a vehicle manufacturerâ€s original warranty, unless the warranty clearly and conspicuously states that aftermarket equipment voids the warranty (ours does not). Most states have warranty statutes, as well. Which provide further protections for vehicle owners.
In other words, that means a dealer canâ€t wiggle out of his legal warranty obligation merely because you install aftermarket equipment. To find out if any aftermarket equipment automatically voids your vehicleâ€s warranty, check the ownerâ€s manual. It will be under the sections titled "What is not covered". Your vehicle manufacturer is simply saying he does not cover the aftermarket products themselves. He is not saying that the products would void the vehicle warranty.
Suppose your modified vehicle needs repairs while still under warranty. Without analyzing the true cause of the problem, the dealer attempts to deny warranty coverage. He made his decision simply based on the fact that youâ€ve installed aftermarket equipment – a convenient way to dodge low-paying warranty work.
Fact: A dealer must prove – not just say – that aftermarket equipment caused the need for repairs before he can deny warranty coverage on that basis.
Point out to the dealer the provision of the MMW Act. Require that he explain to you how the aftermarket equipment caused the problem. If he canâ€t – or his explanation sounds questionable – it is your legal right to demand he comply with the warranty.
If you are being unfairly denied warranty coverage, there is recourse. The Federal Trade Commission, which administers the MMWAct, monitors compliance with warranty issues. Direct complaints to the FCT at (202) 326-3128.
These are direct quotes from US auto manufacturers.
DODGE MOTORS
“Certain changes that you might make to your truck do not, by themselves, void the warranties described in this booklet. Examples of some of these changes are: installing non-Chrysler parts, components, or equipment.†– 1997 Warranty Information supplement to Dodge
GENERAL MOTORS CORPORATION
“If a Chevrolet part fails due to a defect in material or workmanship not related to (on aftermarket products) or the labor to install it. Chevrolet would be responsible for covering the failed part.†– Chevrolet Customer Assistance Center
FORD MOTOR COMPANY
“Installation of a non-genuine Ford item does not, in and of itself, render warranty void.†– Ford Owner Relations Division
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Shawn1112 Founding Member
Location : Hater Proof Points : 34088 Posts : 12919 Reputation : 1607
| Subject: Re: bypassing the resonators October 4th 2009, 12:10 am | |
| - liljoejoe54 wrote:
- plumcrazy wrote:
- I am also thinking about gettign rid of the reso and just putting some tips in place. doe anybdy know if this will create any warranty issues or what something like this will cost. i would like a full system but dont want to spend that much money right now. i just installed the kn cold air system.
If you modify the exhaust, the only thing the dealer can void is the warranty on the OEM exhaust. They might tell you otherwise but they are lying. They cant say changing a different muffler made your water pump go out. They have to prove your mod made a certain part break. Ya but they sure the fuck will try. Joey this is the service manager over at xxxxxxxxxx we just looked at your car and your battery is shot along with your altenator. Its not covered under warranty cause you put an aftermarket exhaust on your car. So its going to cost $2000.00 plus your first born!!! | |
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