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xegitalian19xx Founding Member
Location : Chicago Points : 17936 Posts : 1475 Reputation : 294
| Subject: MTCM? July 28th 2010, 6:28 pm | |
| Is this thing worth getting? It seems like a lot of people on LX rave about it but I wanted to get some CAMMers opinions on it. Most of you know what i'm working with already so just looking at some opinions before I waste some money lol.
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liljoejoe54 Moderator
Location : Chicago Points : 23164 Posts : 4222 Reputation : 848
| Subject: Re: MTCM? July 28th 2010, 6:34 pm | |
| I heard its really worth it. I think Brian has it. | |
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xegitalian19xx Founding Member
Location : Chicago Points : 17936 Posts : 1475 Reputation : 294
| Subject: Re: MTCM? July 28th 2010, 6:40 pm | |
| Yeash, I think it would be a nice addition to my shorties, hi-flos, and new tune from Tim once I get it! Just looking for some opinions is all Thanks joejoe | |
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irishrt5.7 CAMM All-Star
Location : Ingleside Points : 21524 Posts : 3798 Reputation : 705
| Subject: Re: MTCM? July 28th 2010, 7:10 pm | |
| Def worth it... i should have bought it a long time ago... | |
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xegitalian19xx Founding Member
Location : Chicago Points : 17936 Posts : 1475 Reputation : 294
| Subject: Re: MTCM? July 28th 2010, 7:20 pm | |
| Yeah, I was reading up on it and I like the idea that you can hold the shifts in auto stick! That way I can get some more power outta my Cam since it peaks at a higher RPM!!! | |
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irishrt5.7 CAMM All-Star
Location : Ingleside Points : 21524 Posts : 3798 Reputation : 705
| Subject: Re: MTCM? July 28th 2010, 7:21 pm | |
| def does hold i have forgotten to shift numerous times...lol also another thing is that w/ it... in auto stick it will auto downshift for you to start you out at 1 again at a stop... | |
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irishrt5.7 CAMM All-Star
Location : Ingleside Points : 21524 Posts : 3798 Reputation : 705
| Subject: Re: MTCM? July 28th 2010, 7:30 pm | |
| also shifts on command w/ no lag in between gears... | |
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jontoad Founding Member
Location : Naperville, IL Points : 13091 Posts : 4914 Reputation : 1220
| Subject: Re: MTCM? July 28th 2010, 7:37 pm | |
| I'm thinking 06 SRT's got the Mopar TCM program from the factory in the first place.
everything Brian describes is how my car acted before i did the blue top solenoids.
they had a service buliten to update SRT TCM's to take out the shift hold feature and lower the shift point due to hitting the rev limiter on the 1/2 shift stock. since i had the diablo raise the rev limiter i never had that problem with the 1/2 shift so i never got the flash to the normal charger TCM...
it also explains why Mopar says the TCM doesn't work for SRT's since it came out back in 06 and people are using them on 07 to present SRT's now too... | |
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irishrt5.7 CAMM All-Star
Location : Ingleside Points : 21524 Posts : 3798 Reputation : 705
| Subject: Re: MTCM? July 28th 2010, 7:42 pm | |
| That They did jon... lucky bastard...lol ... def worth the 250 they cost though... | |
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inkedup CAMM All-Star
Location : later'ville Points : 9924 Posts : 2958 Reputation : 243
| Subject: Re: MTCM? July 28th 2010, 7:50 pm | |
| ok i have the 93 octane tune how should i adust the shifting ???????its set right now at what diablo set it as | |
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xegitalian19xx Founding Member
Location : Chicago Points : 17936 Posts : 1475 Reputation : 294
| Subject: Re: MTCM? July 28th 2010, 8:53 pm | |
| Thanks for the info fellas...Looks like I need to add it to the list now! | |
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Illinois Chaos CAMM All-Star
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| Subject: Re: MTCM? July 28th 2010, 10:04 pm | |
| - jontoad wrote:
- I'm thinking 06 SRT's got the Mopar TCM program from the factory in the first place.
everything Brian describes is how my car acted before i did the blue top solenoids.
they had a service buliten to update SRT TCM's to take out the shift hold feature and lower the shift point due to hitting the rev limiter on the 1/2 shift stock. since i had the diablo raise the rev limiter i never had that problem with the 1/2 shift so i never got the flash to the normal charger TCM...
it also explains why Mopar says the TCM doesn't work for SRT's since it came out back in 06 and people are using them on 07 to present SRT's now too... X2 Jon. I'm getting my noids on next week. | |
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xegitalian19xx Founding Member
Location : Chicago Points : 17936 Posts : 1475 Reputation : 294
| Subject: Re: MTCM? July 29th 2010, 8:14 am | |
| Just ordered from www.moparsupercenter.com - The guy I talked to was awesome about it and ended up upgrading me to overnight shipping! woo hoo, should have it tomorrow then! | |
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HiPwr Moderator
Location : Earth Points : 21313 Posts : 3498 Reputation : 1463
| Subject: Re: MTCM? July 29th 2010, 8:29 am | |
| - jontoad wrote:
- I'm thinking 06 SRT's got the Mopar TCM program from the factory in the first place.
everything Brian describes is how my car acted before i did the blue top solenoids.
they had a service buliten to update SRT TCM's to take out the shift hold feature and lower the shift point due to hitting the rev limiter on the 1/2 shift stock. since i had the diablo raise the rev limiter i never had that problem with the 1/2 shift so i never got the flash to the normal charger TCM...
it also explains why Mopar says the TCM doesn't work for SRT's since it came out back in 06 and people are using them on 07 to present SRT's now too... Good info. I was wondering what I would gain from this mod & nothing being discussed seemed like something new to me. I never had the service done to remove the shift hold feature either. | |
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irishrt5.7 CAMM All-Star
Location : Ingleside Points : 21524 Posts : 3798 Reputation : 705
| Subject: Re: MTCM? July 29th 2010, 8:47 am | |
| - xegitalian19xx wrote:
- Just ordered from www.moparsupercenter.com - The guy I talked to was awesome about it and ended up upgrading me to overnight shipping! woo hoo, should have it tomorrow then!
awesome... remember when you get it to return to stock install then retune the car... | |
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xegitalian19xx Founding Member
Location : Chicago Points : 17936 Posts : 1475 Reputation : 294
| Subject: Re: MTCM? July 29th 2010, 8:50 am | |
| Gotcha...I'll make sure I do that first!! Thanks Brian | |
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irishrt5.7 CAMM All-Star
Location : Ingleside Points : 21524 Posts : 3798 Reputation : 705
| Subject: Re: MTCM? July 29th 2010, 9:03 am | |
| np... then make sure you train it just as if you pulled the fuse under the hood to reset the adaptives... | |
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irishrt5.7 CAMM All-Star
Location : Ingleside Points : 21524 Posts : 3798 Reputation : 705
| Subject: Re: MTCM? July 29th 2010, 9:05 am | |
| From LXForums
Mopar TCM and Predator Facts:
*The only times you can hose (set back to stock) a mopar tcm are under the following conditions. 1/ You let the Predator take a backup with the stock tcm in and restored the backup or restore quick adjusts with the Predator. 2/You do a "force re-learn variant" procedure, this is rather uncommon but it will set it back to stock settings regardless if you took a backup with the stock tcm or mtcm installed.
So to properly use an Mopar tcm in your vehicle with the predator please follow the basic guidelines. *With stock tcm still installed, restore your original backup. *Install mopar tcm *let the predator take a new backup and use as normal.
Follow these steps and you will be fine and never hose your mtcm.
NOTE: Firmer shifts using the mopar tcm will not do anything as it already uses that setting for the shift firmness.
I personally have two vehicles with this tcm as well as Predator/Trinity on them and i have verified all this to be correct.
I think the biggest mistake people have been doing is to not restore their original backup before installing the mtcm and thus allowing the Predator to read the new tcm string settings that are in the mopar tcm.
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xegitalian19xx Founding Member
Location : Chicago Points : 17936 Posts : 1475 Reputation : 294
| Subject: Re: MTCM? July 29th 2010, 9:12 am | |
| - irishrt5.7 wrote:
- np... then make sure you train it just as if you pulled the fuse under the hood to reset the adaptives...
huh...how do you train it? Just drive it like you stole it? | |
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Shawn1112 Founding Member
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| Subject: Re: MTCM? July 29th 2010, 9:41 am | |
| - xegitalian19xx wrote:
- irishrt5.7 wrote:
- np... then make sure you train it just as if you pulled the fuse under the hood to reset the adaptives...
huh...how do you train it? Just drive it like you stole it? Thats how should normally drive your car! | |
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irishrt5.7 CAMM All-Star
Location : Ingleside Points : 21524 Posts : 3798 Reputation : 705
| Subject: Re: MTCM? July 29th 2010, 9:42 am | |
| Pretty much... it will explain it in the instructions when you get it... | |
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xegitalian19xx Founding Member
Location : Chicago Points : 17936 Posts : 1475 Reputation : 294
| Subject: Re: MTCM? July 29th 2010, 10:07 am | |
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xegitalian19xx Founding Member
Location : Chicago Points : 17936 Posts : 1475 Reputation : 294
| Subject: Re: MTCM? July 30th 2010, 11:13 pm | |
| Well its in and all I can say is OMG...What a complete difference between this one and the old one! This could be the best mod to date, well minus the cam and predator that is!!! Everyone needs one of these! | |
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Illinois Chaos CAMM All-Star
Location : in the other lane Points : 13967 Posts : 5492 Reputation : 1198
| Subject: Re: MTCM? July 30th 2010, 11:15 pm | |
| - xegitalian19xx wrote:
- Well its in and all I can say is OMG...What a complete difference between this one and the old one! This could be the best mod to date, well minus the cam and predator that is!!! Everyone needs one of these!
lol, Ant. Got one, it came stock on the cars in 08. Don't swallow your tongue on shifts. | |
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xegitalian19xx Founding Member
Location : Chicago Points : 17936 Posts : 1475 Reputation : 294
| Subject: Re: MTCM? July 30th 2010, 11:17 pm | |
| Yeah its crazy how much difference there is! It drives like I always thought it should now! | |
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