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+16HiPwr Moparcharger07 irishrt5.7 ChiTownHemi cobretti cliff Mad Hatter Shawn1112 jontoad movieking117 chargerchick DCSpecial jesse031081 Iguanaman eviltrycycle crazy933 20 posters |
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crazy933 CAMM Pro
Location : Joliet Points : 6364 Posts : 494 Reputation : 86
| Subject: Amazed by a catch can November 18th 2009, 8:00 pm | |
| when i first too off the hose from the PCV valve to the intake there was a little oil in in. after having 100 miles on the car since the catch can wa on there i was amazed at the amount of oil in it. sure it was only a few drops but that was after 100 miles. how much oil was that motor sucked down in the past 48k miles?
guys and girls thanks for the input on the catch cans. if it wasn't for CAMM i would have never known. | |
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eviltrycycle Founding Member
Location : Almost Wisconsin Points : 47115 Posts : 13182 Reputation : 1139
| Subject: Re: Amazed by a catch can November 18th 2009, 8:22 pm | |
| Cool deal!!!
I have yet to open mine since I put it on. Maybe Friday just to see what's in there. | |
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Iguanaman CAMM All-Star
Location : L.I.T.H. Points : 9858 Posts : 2746 Reputation : 1136
| Subject: Re: Amazed by a catch can November 18th 2009, 8:48 pm | |
| What amazes people about them besides the fact that there's oil in it? Bona fide performance gains, mileage gains, other quantifiable gains from this? | |
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crazy933 CAMM Pro
Location : Joliet Points : 6364 Posts : 494 Reputation : 86
| Subject: Re: Amazed by a catch can November 18th 2009, 9:05 pm | |
| i would like to know how much crap has been sucked back into the motor | |
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Iguanaman CAMM All-Star
Location : L.I.T.H. Points : 9858 Posts : 2746 Reputation : 1136
| Subject: Re: Amazed by a catch can November 18th 2009, 9:15 pm | |
| - crazy933 wrote:
- i would like to know how much crap has been sucked back into the motor
Yeah, that's a nice to know, I'm just looking for engineering-type-info that will make a convincing case that it's necessary. | |
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jesse031081 CAMM All-Star
Location : Wisconsin Points : 8927 Posts : 1932 Reputation : 525
| Subject: Re: Amazed by a catch can November 18th 2009, 10:00 pm | |
| Basically its a filter that goes between your PCV valves. It will catch the oil "blow-by" before it hits your intake. Easy to install, and it is easy to empty. Like every oil change (3000mi)
Over time, oil and other unburned contaminates will condense and built up behind the throttle body plate and intake. So it is a long term investment and reliability mod.... Helps things stay cleaner.
So to quickly answer your three questions:
(1) No, its not a performance mod. (2) No, its not a fuel system enhancement mod. (3) No, it does not replace anything on the PVC system but enhances overall operation over time (filter out and condense oil, etc.) I found this for you | |
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Iguanaman CAMM All-Star
Location : L.I.T.H. Points : 9858 Posts : 2746 Reputation : 1136
| Subject: Re: Amazed by a catch can November 18th 2009, 10:33 pm | |
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DCSpecial CAMM Member
Location : Far Northern, IL Points : 5625 Posts : 57 Reputation : 22
| Subject: Re: Amazed by a catch can November 19th 2009, 1:11 am | |
| Actually some people have reported less knock retard after installing a catch can. Reason being that the oil makes its way to the combustion chamber essentially contaminating the air/fuel mixture. Less Knock Retard means less timing is pulled, which means better performance. | |
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Iguanaman CAMM All-Star
Location : L.I.T.H. Points : 9858 Posts : 2746 Reputation : 1136
| Subject: Re: Amazed by a catch can November 19th 2009, 6:18 am | |
| - DCSpecial wrote:
- Actually some people have reported less knock retard after installing a catch can.
Reason being that the oil makes its way to the combustion chamber essentially contaminating the air/fuel mixture. Less Knock Retard means less timing is pulled, which means better performance. OK, now that sounds like it could help what I'm experiencing now. Sometimes i feel like my knock is retarded. | |
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chargerchick CAMM All-Star
Location : Phoenix, AZ Points : 23048 Posts : 5460 Reputation : 880
| Subject: Re: Amazed by a catch can November 19th 2009, 8:01 am | |
| Thanks for your answers, Jesse! | |
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DCSpecial CAMM Member
Location : Far Northern, IL Points : 5625 Posts : 57 Reputation : 22
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movieking117 CAMM Rookie
Location : palatine, il Points : 5484 Posts : 4 Reputation : 4
| Subject: Re: Amazed by a catch can December 28th 2009, 11:51 pm | |
| where do u get a catch can? | |
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jontoad Founding Member
Location : Naperville, IL Points : 13156 Posts : 4914 Reputation : 1220
| Subject: Re: Amazed by a catch can December 29th 2009, 12:04 am | |
| - movieking117 wrote:
- where do u get a catch can?
billet technology, Maryland speed, BMC performance, and Michigan Hemi Performance to name a few places. | |
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Shawn1112 Founding Member
Location : Hater Proof Points : 34153 Posts : 12919 Reputation : 1607
| Subject: Re: Amazed by a catch can December 29th 2009, 9:25 pm | |
| - movieking117 wrote:
- where do u get a catch can?
Matt (elcobra) usually sells them. Hopefully he will get his ass off that xbox and see this. | |
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eviltrycycle Founding Member
Location : Almost Wisconsin Points : 47115 Posts : 13182 Reputation : 1139
| Subject: Re: Amazed by a catch can December 30th 2009, 5:43 pm | |
| Left the good info on catch cans and moved the lady offending stuff.
As you were. | |
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Mad Hatter CAMM Member
Location : Hazel Crest, Il Points : 7174 Posts : 897 Reputation : 184
| Subject: Re: Amazed by a catch can December 31st 2009, 8:15 pm | |
| Mine is on the Way!
Got in on the Big BT sale! | |
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cliff CAMM Rookie
Location : Wheaton, il Points : 5473 Posts : 5 Reputation : 0
| Subject: Re: Amazed by a catch can December 31st 2009, 8:46 pm | |
| The only downside to a catch can is that you HAVE to remember to empty it regularly. If you forget, then at some point you will step on the gas, and she'll get a lungfull of oil. This is a very bad thing. Much worse than a little mist at a time.
Cliff | |
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jesse031081 CAMM All-Star
Location : Wisconsin Points : 8927 Posts : 1932 Reputation : 525
| Subject: Re: Amazed by a catch can December 31st 2009, 8:58 pm | |
| i just empty each oil change or when i want to show people how much it keeps off my engine. | |
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crazy933 CAMM Pro
Location : Joliet Points : 6364 Posts : 494 Reputation : 86
| Subject: Re: Amazed by a catch can December 31st 2009, 8:59 pm | |
| I am still trying to figure out how much oil it will collect between oil changes. after installing it i had an oil change 500 miles later and there was probably 30cc of oil. I should be able to go 3000 miles before emptying it maybe 5000 miles now that i'm using synthetic. I will have to keep an eye on it to get to know how far i can go. | |
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Shawn1112 Founding Member
Location : Hater Proof Points : 34153 Posts : 12919 Reputation : 1607
| Subject: Re: Amazed by a catch can January 1st 2010, 3:57 am | |
| You can go at least 3000 miles before emptying it. If you forget to empty your catch can and your car gets a lungful, then you are fucking stupid, and you dont deserve to own a mopar! Sorry to be blunt but its the truth! | |
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cliff CAMM Rookie
Location : Wheaton, il Points : 5473 Posts : 5 Reputation : 0
| Subject: Re: Amazed by a catch can January 1st 2010, 8:19 am | |
| - Shawn1112 wrote:
- You can go at least 3000 miles before emptying it. If you forget to empty your catch can and your car gets a lungful, then you are fucking stupid, and you dont deserve to own a mopar! Sorry to be blunt but its the truth!
That seems a bit harsh. Lots of things in life can come up that make you forget odd bits of regular maintenance on house and car. I've gone 10K miles and realized I hadn't rotated my tires or checked the torque on the lug nuts on previous vehicles. I'm just suggesting that people put it on their calander or something. If you change your own oil, it's just part of the job, but if you have someone else do it, they aren't going to look to see if you have a catch can and empty it for you. It's not a big deal, but the consequences of not doing it can be high -- much higher than forgetting to rotate your tires. I think it's important to understand that, that's all Just my opinion. Cliff | |
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Iguanaman CAMM All-Star
Location : L.I.T.H. Points : 9858 Posts : 2746 Reputation : 1136
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crazy933 CAMM Pro
Location : Joliet Points : 6364 Posts : 494 Reputation : 86
| Subject: Re: Amazed by a catch can March 8th 2010, 5:22 pm | |
| I just had the catch can on for a 4000 miles of running synthetic and it was just about half full | |
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Mad Hatter CAMM Member
Location : Hazel Crest, Il Points : 7174 Posts : 897 Reputation : 184
| Subject: Re: Amazed by a catch can March 9th 2010, 10:40 pm | |
| Something to look forward to. Thanks! | |
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cobretti CAMM Rookie
Location : Rockton, IL Points : 5478 Posts : 13 Reputation : 28
| Subject: Re: Amazed by a catch can March 13th 2010, 1:29 am | |
| - Iguanaman wrote:
- What amazes people about them besides the fact that there's oil in it? Bona fide performance gains, mileage gains, other quantifiable gains from this?
None whatsoever! If they were necessary Chrysler would have put them there. IMO Just another way to get your money. If the oil doesn't foul the plug whats the difference? $100! | |
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