tuner

with the predator do you really notice a difference? im on the fence about getting one.... any hp gains and gain in gas mileage, i would just stick with the preloaded tunes cause id hate for something to go wrong.

Yes the difference is like night and day. Get it along with a CAI if you dont already have one and also get a 180* thermostat. Do it.....do it.

I noticed a big difference. I really notice it when I have to reload stock tune to go back to the stealership.

I could tell a difference, but it wasn't something awesome. If you do switch out your t'stat, you definately need it so you can adjust your fans. You can also turn off your MDS and with the R/T Charger (I can't speak for the Challenger), you can adjust shift firmness.

I guess it might be more noticible if I had to go back to the stock tune like Bill said.

ok im almost sold is the tstat an easy install and when will you be available to help install it all? Bill!!!!

The thermostat is super easy to install. Vic did ours.

Have you ordered the tuner yet, Jesse? Mine took like three weeks to get delivered. Maybe Maryland Speed will give you a deal on a t'stat and a tuner.

i am gonna order it from maryalnd speed and i talked to jen already. thanks for the input. eric did you get yours from them

Jesse, I'm sure Vic would help you install your thermostat.

he is a pretty cool guy!

jesse031081 wrote:

i am gonna order it from maryalnd speed and i talked to jen already. thanks for the input. eric did you get yours from them

No, I didn't.

I know some of this doesn't directly apply to the Challenger, but here is an excellent compilation of how-tos: http://www.chargerforums.com/forums/showthread.php?t=67858

Here's the t'stat specifically (videos):

Part 1
https://s35.photobucket.com/albums/d200/mnunes1/Mods/Thermostat/?action=view&current=ChangingThermostatVideoPowerWagon.flv

Part 2
https://s35.photobucket.com/albums/d200/mnunes1/Mods/Thermostat/?action=view&current=ChangingThermostatVideopt2.flv

I noticed a difference with the 93 CAI over stock. And now with my CMR it's night and day better than the 93 CAI tune.

DCSpecial wrote:

I noticed a difference with the 93 CAI over stock. And now with my CMR it's night and day better than the 93 CAI tune.

Absafuckinglutely! Get it dyno tuned. You will have amazing gains. About 40rwhp with CMR.

im sure ill get the bug for a cmr some day but baby steps for now

jesse031081 wrote:

im sure ill get the bug for a cmr some day but baby steps for now

Call Bob Kurgan. He really gets it right.

maybe a cmr will be a prize for the chili cook off

jesse, i got the predator last friday and yes there was a difference. after i reset the TCM and the shift points and firmness last night, then i said "holy shit" to the wife this is awesome.

maryland speed has deals right now due to some change with diablosport and they are trying to move their inventory.

i got the predator, pc interface, jet 180 t-stat and hoses

Illinois Chaos wrote:

jesse031081 wrote:

im sure ill get the bug for a cmr some day but baby steps for now

Call Bob Kurgan. He really gets it right.

Is he in Arizona? I think this is the guy I'm going to be going to!

jesse031081 wrote:

ok im almost sold is the tstat an easy install and when will you be available to help install it all? Bill!!!!

About 10-15 minutes worth of work

I just got my predator on Friday. I installed the 93 OCT tune because I'm waiting on some parts still.....and even from stock I notice a difference in accelaration and overall driveability. It was so easy. The Predator literally does everything for you....just push a couple buttons.

I would like to learn a bit more about making manual adjustments though, without doing damage to my ride.

northsiderz wrote:

I just got my predator on Friday. I installed the 93 OCT tune because I'm waiting on some parts still.....and even from stock I notice a difference in accelaration and overall driveability. It was so easy. The Predator literally does everything for you....just push a couple buttons.

I would like to learn a bit more about making manual adjustments though, without doing damage to my ride.

You can EASILY get yourself into a heap of trouble with manual fuel and timing adjustments if you don't know what you're doing. Don't do it unless you are 100% confident in what you're doing and have datalogged all the parameters you need to make the correct adjustments.

ChiTownHemi wrote:

northsiderz wrote:

I just got my predator on Friday. I installed the 93 OCT tune because I'm waiting on some parts still.....and even from stock I notice a difference in accelaration and overall driveability. It was so easy. The Predator literally does everything for you....just push a couple buttons.

I would like to learn a bit more about making manual adjustments though, without doing damage to my ride.

You can EASILY get yourself into a heap of trouble with manual fuel and timing adjustments if you don't know what you're doing. Don't do it unless you are 100% confident in what you're doing and have datalogged all the parameters you need to make the correct adjustments.

That's what the certified CMR tuners do on a dyno tune. A custom CMR tune.

Thanks for the advice. So I'll be good until I do a full upgrade with exhaust.